• episode 63: what if you built the wrong network? (w/ pablo alejo)

    episode 63: what if you built the wrong network? (w/ pablo alejo)

    Jenna and Elli talk with Pablo Alejo as he delves into the art of building a meaningful professional network over his 25-year career. Pablo shares insights on moving beyond transactional networking by focusing on authentic human connections, stressing the importance of nurturing client relationships and understanding business needs in creative work. He candidly discusses his…

  • episode 62: what if you need to work to be different?

    episode 62: what if you need to work to be different?

    elli and jenna dive into what it looks like to carve your own career path, however circuitous that may be, in order to honor the time and focus you have for your family. there are many barriers that get thrown into your career path when you become a parent – limited flexibility, less access to…

  • episode 61: what if you got laid off?

    episode 61: what if you got laid off?

    Jenna and Elli dig into both the emotions as well as the tactical response to being laid off with guests Carrie Bucko and Clinton Forry. Great insights and advice — not only for folks who have been laid off, but also some tips for those who might be anxious it could happen in their current…

  • episode 60: what if you’re dessa?

    episode 60: what if you’re dessa?

    Unpacking Art and Business: A Conversation with Dessa Join us as we welcome Dessa, a multifaceted creative force known for her work in music, writing, and public speaking. Explore her journey from childhood aspirations of business to becoming an artist whose career spans hip hop shows, orchestras, and even the BBC. Dessa shares insights into…

  • episode 59: what if they say no?

    episode 59: what if they say no?

    In this episode, Jenna and elli delved into the complexities of advocating for oneself in the workplace and what happens when it doesn’t go the way you wanted. The episode highlights the importance of resilience, persistence, and viewing setbacks as a time to learn.

  • episode 58: what if you are neurodiverse?

    episode 58: what if you are neurodiverse?

    In this episode, Elli and Jenna discuss neurodiversity with former consultant and current student Emma.  The trio explore what it means to experience and interact with the world in various ways, the concept of masking, and how understanding and perceptions of neurodiversity are evolving over time. Resources to explore: ADHD Self Reported Assessment Autism Self…

  • episode 57: what if you hit the bottom?

    episode 57: what if you hit the bottom?

    Hey there, Professional Humans! In this episode, hosts Elli and Jenna chat with their long-time friend, Ben Steinbach, about something we’ve all faced: feeling totally overwhelmed.Ben shares his own story of hitting, and growing through, a breaking point and how he uses the analogy of ‘the Gardener and the Flower’ as a way to think…

  • episode 56: live episode

    episode 56: live episode

    It’s live episode time!! Elli and Jenna, a dynamic audience of Professional Humans, and Fathom Consulting CEO, Kate McRoberts, come together to celebrate the launch of Gray Cardigan and its founder, Mark Hines.Their discussion tackles the often-undiscussed topic of asking for help, delving into the value and the challenges that can present, especially in professional…

  • episode 55: what if you need a coach?

    episode 55: what if you need a coach?

    In “What if you need a coach?”, Elli and Jenna talk with the lovely and lively Alison Gretz about her journey from corporate design leader to launching her own coaching business. They delve into the essence of coaching versus traditional leadership, and Alison shares her more authentic spin on the ‘fake it til you make…

  • episode 53: what if you started a business?

    episode 53: what if you started a business?

    Elli and Jenna chat with Mark Hines (Gray Cardigan) and Robert Nelson (Soto Digital),  wonderful folks who’ve recently dived into different entrepreneurship ventures. They share their experiences making the leap, tackling everything from dreaming up ideas to drawing in clients and nailing down prices. It’s all about the crucial choices they made early on and…